1Ozilmeyang
2018-12-16 02:20:39
Hungary’s hardline anti-immigrant government has expressed disappointment at the loss of Britain’s “common sense” from the EU immigration debate.
Its foreign minister said the UK leaving was “worst possible scenario for us” because “our preference would have been for Britain to stay in and migrants to stay out”.
史普尼克二號
2018-12-16 05:43:58
脫歐派成日講嘅:
1. EU 食鳩英國嘅錢來養班窮國
-呢個 statement 喺歐豬危機之後畀人係咁放大。但係好似 Mimorin 巴咁講,呢份錢其實英國已經有折頭(人均上繳歐盟稅項計算)。你參加一個團體梗係要交會費,但係啲錢係咪自己完全冇份用呢?英國農業同埋學術研究好多都係經 EU 嘅 Program 攞 funding,所以脫歐公投之後搞到英國高等教育嚴重嘅人才流失同無錢。講完 Get the money back 之後,其實呢啲 Budget 就可以擺晒落 NHS 咩,淨係填返冇咗 EU Funding 嘅氹都有排填。
2. EU 政策制定不民主,欠缺代表性
- 呢個老實講某程度係啱,因為 EU 有自己獨立嘅 bureaucrats,直接民選嘅歐洲議會其實係作為諮詢機構大於立法機構。大部分權力集中喺European Commission (歐盟嘅行政機構),而制定政策係好少會經地方層面諮詢。
-但係喺另一個角度睇,European Commission 嘅代表係經歐洲各國政府揀出來,亦都要經直接民選出來嘅歐洲議會通過任命,行政機關係咪真係咁冇代表性呢?而歐盟嘅上議院 Council of EU 亦都係由各國政府嘅部長擔當。不民主係有得商討(我都覺得歐盟嘅組成呢種組成方式唔算民主),但係欠缺每個國家嘅代表性就有啲牽強。
- 同樣道理地,話歐盟法律直接凌駕英國法律係啱,而且成文法嘅背景同使用不成文法嘅英國有好大嘅衝突。但係呢啲法律係咪完全無經過英國人去審視呢?又唔可以完全咁講。
1Ozilmeyang
2018-12-16 07:31:51
Theresa May’s chief of staff has triggered a civil war in Downing Street by telling Cabinet Ministers that a second EU referendum is the only way to break the Brexit deadlock.
Filibuster_HK
2018-12-16 08:16:30
UK ministers think May's Brexit plan is dead, seek alternatives: The Times
[url]https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-times-idUSKBN1OD2R7?
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LONDON (Reuters) - Most of British Prime Minister Theresa May’s senior ministers think her Brexit plan is dead and are discussing different options including a second referendum, The Times newspaper reported.
One group of ministers, including Amber Rudd, the work and pensions minister, and finance minister Philip Hammond, was leaning reluctantly toward backing a second referendum if all other options are exhausted, it said.
Another group, including environment minister Michael Gove and interior minister Sajid Javid, was opposed to the idea of a second referendum, with Gove favoring a closer, Norway-style relationship with the EU after Brexit.
Filibuster_HK
2018-12-16 08:16:46
Other ministers including foreign minister Jeremy Hunt were willing to risk leaving the EU without a deal, the report said.
想當年
支持脫歐嘅聽到個脫字就射出精, 好似牛屎佬咁完全唔理啲細節谷精上腦一味得衝動
反對脫歐嘅就太過戇鳩鳩和理非非真係正宗左膠 淨係識得叫口號 唔識得用道理去說服人