LIHKG IT界討論區:(35) IT狗圍爐之吹奏人工鼓吹入行
Trinidad 2018-7-31 11:27:52 舊post
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P仔 頂爛市參考價 :
乜都唔識 + HD: 14k - 15k
識少少 + HD: 16k-18k
u grad + 白紙: 16k~18k
u grad + 有intern/相關pt/freelance exp : 19k ~21k

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早前我去一間係尖沙咀,叫"Cyber Universal Company Limited. 新意環球有限公司"見programmer
問起我點解想離開上一間公司
我同佢講因為上一間公司成日開OT,令我好難半工讀到
佢竟然好串咁話:
我地間公司成日都做到8,9點架啦!!好多時星期六、日都要OT返工!!
你想準時放工去讀書?去做保安啦你!!
保安咪準時放工收工後乜都唔洗理囉!!
你走得架啦!!
轉行做保安啦!!
果刻火到拍枱起身走

你地日日開OT=好威同正常?
係你地管理同能力問題吓?
垃圾港資扮大牌!!
見佢地日日登jobsdb,繼續登多幾年jobsdb啦!!

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冇自己位不在話下, 但有勁污糟既位俾你用
男人去廁所要去出面熱到仆街既公廁,女人就有公司廁所
Director 加丁點人工 = 俾機會你進步
打工學野係要交學費
落左site做野唔係公司 = 你放緊假好撚得閒
7 x 24 oncall is a must
例牌要OT做野
Sales 不嬲當Enginee 仔狗咁撚,客一投訴就送呢樣送果樣俾佢, 務求使撚死班Enginee 仔


xxxxxview, 最近爆左單野, 話說某間酒店同佢買 Cisco Main, 年年比足錢, 但是 Macrovxxx 冇同 Cisco 買, 變相自己白袋左筆錢 ... 最近間酒店轉 Vendor 先發現原來一直都冇同 Cisco 買 Main. 最後出 Legal 告 9 佢 ...

呢間正一仆街來, Sale 屎十問九唔應, E-mail 唔復, 甚至搵佢續 Main 都唔理我 ... 好明顯睇唔上我呢 D 細公司, 人手唔夠, 真係盞做死下面班細 ...

不過下面班細幾好, 落 case, 比埋 S/N, 幾個鐘內就有人復 ... 起碼都叫做有人跟下, 有人比我屌下 ...

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可食用甲由 2018-7-31 11:28:39
不嬲覺得香港D毒撚痴撚線
搞program又搞埋infra果份
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以為自己識好多電腦skills好撚勁
試過見過毒撚為左鬥個project bugs
飯都唔食都繼續鬥落去
放工時間又唔放工
8個鐘對著電腦眼都唔盲?

你話逗30,40k好正常
逗果10零16k咁真係痴閪線
8個鐘寫一個冇人用既function
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大project d code,要1個16k既code狗出盡渾身解數好大機會係infar/OO/一開始normalization 已經做得唔好,一係就個code狗on9連hashmap都唔識用
normalization 好難
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我地公司有個system, 1.1 上 1.2 enhancement delay左9個月,太撚多bug,但係d ba已經做緊1.3 version既野
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做唔好normalization 咪咁羅
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點為之好既normalization ?
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我做親果啲project都係用條key join到就算,不過見到明明link左 key但仲有幾個column係喺果邊抄過黎 既 真係屌左出聲,backend啲code亂到仆街
Trinidad 2018-7-31 11:30:00 有1NF,2NF,3NF 跟架嘛
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不過好多時都唔會跟到咁解
可食用甲由 2018-7-31 11:32:52 唔跟果啲真係完全唔諗後果
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俞定延隻狗 2018-7-31 11:34:11
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Trinidad 2018-7-31 11:34:11 3nf真係好多公司為performance都唔會跟
尤其intensive read only data嗰啲
i-vtec 2018-7-31 11:35:05
岩岩in個得2年經既P仔
做緊所謂startup,介紹自己果下強調自己係full stack幾次
但係問多兩句program logic野同frontend野就開始遊花園
竟然夠膽開價40k
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我即刻同佢講我地呢d公司仔請唔起你呢種人材,唔好阻大家時間就打發佢走

網上吹奏IT人工原來真係有傻仔信到十足
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做start up正傻閪
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俞定延隻狗 2018-7-31 11:37:00
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好彩啱啱畢業冇做startup
不過都係唔算高人工
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俞定延隻狗 2018-7-31 11:37:29 雞碎咁多
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可食用甲由 2018-7-31 11:38:05 2年P仔夠膽開40K
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洗乜強調自己係fullstack,人地一問就知你識唔識
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知名不具 2018-7-31 11:39:32 點會咁易40, 20-30就好易
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俞定延隻狗 2018-7-31 11:39:42
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i-vtec 2018-7-31 11:43:30 HK startup算數啦
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我入VTC 港鐵做IT算
慢慢跳point 等退休
傻既先創新
賺錢冇我份,用新tech關我撚事

準時放工,年年加薪,有錢供股票, 唔好?
知名不具 2018-7-31 11:45:30 入startup通常都係做冷門野, 你出黎個skillset好難比其他地方請
第一份入做大路d公司先易長玩長有
i-vtec 2018-7-31 11:47:50 ching識玩
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俞定延隻狗 2018-7-31 11:48:20 啱呀
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唔駛OT
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知名不具 2018-7-31 11:48:36
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俞定延隻狗 2018-7-31 11:50:16
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實驗羊 2018-7-31 11:53:51
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答沉船 2018-7-31 11:57:00
不嬲覺得香港D毒撚痴撚線
搞program又搞埋infra果份
:^(
:^(

以為自己識好多電腦skills好撚勁
試過見過毒撚為左鬥個project bugs
飯都唔食都繼續鬥落去
放工時間又唔放工
8個鐘對著電腦眼都唔盲?

你話逗30,40k好正常
逗果10零16k咁真係痴閪線
8個鐘寫一個冇人用既function
:^(

大project d code,要1個16k既code狗出盡渾身解數好大機會係infar/OO/一開始normalization 已經做得唔好,一係就個code狗on9連hashmap都唔識用
normalization 好難
:^(
我地公司有個system, 1.1 上 1.2 enhancement delay左9個月,太撚多bug,但係d ba已經做緊1.3 version既野<img src="/assets/faces/dog/haha.gif" class="hkgmoji" /> <img src="/assets/faces/dog/haha.gif" class="hkgmoji" /> <img src="/assets/faces/dog/hehe.gif" class="hkgmoji" />

做唔好normalization 咪咁羅<img src="/assets/faces/dog/smile.gif" class="hkgmoji" /> <img src="/assets/faces/dog/smile.gif" class="hkgmoji" />

點為之好既normalization ?<img src="/assets/faces/normal/wonder2.gif" class="hkgmoji" /> 我做親果啲project都係用條key join到就算,不過見到明明link左 key但仲有幾個column係喺果邊抄過黎 既 真係屌左出聲,backend啲code亂到仆街
有1NF,2NF,3NF 跟架嘛<img src="/assets/faces/normal/clown.gif" class="hkgmoji" />

不過好多時都唔會跟到咁解

現實大部份都係0NF 特登有行係另外兩行相加減乘除既
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可食用甲由 2018-7-31 11:59:55
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俞定延隻狗 2018-7-31 12:01:15
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Trinidad 2018-7-31 12:02:54 40k真係一隻普通It狗嘅關口
Trinidad 2018-7-31 12:03:23 冇錯
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成個db冇relationship都見過
Trinidad 2018-7-31 12:04:03 angular有亂
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佢個arch分得幾好喎