我係打手 2022-1-8 20:05:33
問推薦唔俾budget一律建議dCS vivaldi 成set加HE-1

隔離耳機po剩係得隨身玩家，hifi po 又主要都係玩speaker , 乜香港地無人玩over-ear, on-ear 耳機咩

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吐槽：其實隔離post唔係淨係得隨身玩家，不過隨身玩法洗版太快，好難追到headphone 啲comment

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呢度會集中headphone 同埋枱式系統相關（包括DAC, AMP）

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快快地聽，慢慢地說，慢慢地動怒
reply之前唔好心急，review一下就會避到唔少爭執
一去到意氣之爭就好難將你想表達論點令人聽得入耳

初心係音樂
唔係器材

Template完善中，歡迎comment
Glossary
ASIO
From wiki:

ASIO（Audio stream input output），音頻設備驅動程序的一種。

用ASIO目的係做低延遲，同埋避開OS個volume control
OS個volume control會resample個audio去做volume control，音質會差咗
ASIO要hardware support，唔少要裝driver的 DAC都已經有ASIO support
ASIO4All其實唔算真ASIO

WASAPI
WASAPI係用作避開Windows audio core 個 resampling.
用Exclusive mode(獨佔 mode)之下software可以要求獨佔個audio device (e.g. DAC)，其他program 唔可以同時用同一部dac出聲，而且唔經resampling
所有 program 預設用Shared mode，將唔同program 聲resample 再mix 埋先出dac
傳送audio data個時會有push mode 同 event mode揀

event mode vs push mode
push mode 下program keep住定期問DAC幾時可以收data，等到DAC 答ready 就send data比 DAC。部份DAC有機會因為buffer問題而有decode 問題
Event mode 之下program 準備部份data，等DAC 自己向program 問program data，program先會send data。Latency 會低過push mode。
Event mode 要DAC support先用到。

CTIA, OMTP
兩種唔同3.5 mm 有mic頭標淮，夾錯標淮的話用6.3 轉3.5轉頭個時會冇聲


dBFS
電路訊號強度單位

LKFS
人耳所聽到的loudness level單位，並非電路訊號強度

MMCSS
Multimedia Class Scheduler service (MMCSS) 係windows內有關多媒體CPU schedule服務，對於播放軟件，用高d priority就少d機會同人爭resource
"Pro Audio"為最高priority
foobar 2000同TuneBrowser都可以set MMCSS做"Pro Audio"

Drop.com (前稱 massdrop)
Drop 係一個外國團購網，上面有唔同分類產品，包括服裝、電器、科技產品、Gaiming產品等等。同呢個post最有關就係audiophile分類
URL: https://drop.com/audiophile/drops
IEM, headphone, dac, amp, ear pad/ ear tip都有

平至幾十到過萬港紙產品都有，每個產品都可以留言討論同review；購物區以外亦有forum比用家交流。
（當然，review同討論就好個人，只供參考）

Drop 買野唔ship 香港的話可以用轉運，如buyandship

Drop 運作方式係同廠方合作推團購，有時會用massdrop (or Drop) 冠名同廠方推出Drop 限定特別版產品。好似HD 6XX (即係HD650)

MQA
It is a scam.
https://youtu.be/pRjsu9-Vznc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHkqWZ9jzA0
https://goldensound.audio/2021/11/29/tidal-hifi-is-not-lossless/

工具
https://www.audiocheck.net/soundtests_headphones.php
呢個 website主要 gen啲tune 出嚟 check frequency response , 左右聲度同左右有冇反相之類
唔只耳機, 試喇叭都會用得
check 有冇左右反相重可以用下面呢條 youtube 片, 佢會話你知幾時段音樂會刻意反咗相:
https://youtu.be/kUT6ZhFdLkA

http://www.digizoid.com/headphones-power.html
https://www.headphonesty.com/headphone-power-calculator/
headphone power calculator, 可以用黎計headphone 要幾多watt / 電壓先夠推

FAQ
Frequency response 與聽感關系


discrete amp vs chip based amp
chip based amp係用op amp砌出黎
op amp 人面有完整放大線路
你將個放大線路用返普通transistor砌出黎就係discrete amp
當然你所有野拆出黎做就所有野都可以customise, 技術高就可以做得好過op amp
op amp 有個缺點係出唔到大電流，出大電流就要拆開做

op amp就好似notebook/all in 1 PC, discrete amp 就好似自己砌機咁

iPhone 夠推HD800s？
[耳機撚]召集大耳牛、枱式耳機系統用家(29)
- 分享自 LIHKG 討論區
https://lih.kg/aLDpBxV

IFI 英國公司？
https://www.l7audiolab.com/f/%E5%BA%99%E5%B0%8F%E5%A6%96%E9%A3%8E%E5%A4%A7%EF%BC%8C%E6%B1%A0%E6%B5%85%E7%8E%8B%E5%85%AB%E5%A4%9A-%E5%90%84%E5%93%81%E7%89%8C%E7%A5%96%E5%9D%9F/

我係打手 2022-1-8 20:05:55 headphone推介(歡迎提供推介)
歡迎留言問下每隻個聲係點
為免偏見, 以下推介以英數字排序

Under 1k:
。Alessandro M1 (open back)
。he400se (open back, 平板)
。Hi-X15 (closed back)
。Hi-X50 (closed back)
。K240S/K240 mk II (open back)
。K701 (open back)
。MDR 7506 (closed back)
。SHP9500 (open back)
。SR60e (open back)
。SR80 (open back)
。srh440 (closed back)

1-2k:
。ATH-M50x (closed back)
。ATH-MSR7b (closed back)
。CD900ST (日本錄音室專用,只限日本販賣) (closed back)
。DT770Pro (closed back)
。DT990 Premium Limited-Edition Black (open back) (drop.com) (DT990 都係250ohm 以上好d)
。HD58X (open back) (drop.com)
。HD 6XX (即係HD650) (open back) (drop.com)
。HE4XX (open back, 平板) (drop.com)
。K7XX (K712改pad, 仲有一個Red Edition, 只係改色) (open back) (drop.com)
。X2HR (open back)

2-5k
。AH-D5200 (closed back)

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。Amiron Home (open back)
。deva (open back, 平板)
。DROP + MRSPEAKERS ETHER CX CLOSED HEADPHONES (closed back, 平板)
。ESP/95X Electrostatic System (靜電headphone連專用amp, 原廠重製當年嘅ESP/950, 不過少咗電池盒同皮袋, 同埋換咗個pad) (open back) (drop.com)

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。HD700 (open back)
。HI-X65 (open back)
。Massdrop x Fostex TR-X00 Mahogany Headphones/ Massdrop x Fostex TR-X00 Ebony Headphones/ Massdrop x Fostex TR-X00 Purpleheart Headphones (closed back) (drop.com)
。Meze Audio 99 (closed back)

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。PM-3 (open back, 平板)
。Sundara (open back, 平板)
。th-500rp (open back, 平板)
。th-t60rp (semi-open back, 平板)
。VECLOS HPT-700 (closed back) 已停產，貨尾唔多

5k-10k
。Aeon 2 closed / Aeon 2 closed Noire (closed back, 平板)
。AH-D7200 (closed back)
。Ananda (open back, 平板)
。LCD2 closed back (closed back, 平板)
。SR-L500 + SRM-353x

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(open back)
。T1 2nd (semi-open)
。T5 3rd (closed back)
。W5000 (closed)

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10k以上
。AH-D9200 (closed back)
。Clear/ Clear professional/ Clear mg/ Clear mag professional (Focal) (open back)
。D8000/ D8000 pro (open back, 平板)
。edition 15
。K812 (open back)
。K872 (closed back)
。MDR-Z1R (closed back)
。PS2000 (open back)
。Stellia (closed back)
。Utoopia (open back)
。ZMF Vérité closed/open

窮三代headphone:
。1266TC (open back, 平板)
。ADX5000 (open back)
。Arya (hifiman) (open back, 平板)
。Empyrean (open back, 平板)
。GS3000e (open back)
。HD800/ HD800s (open back)
。HE-1 (open back, 靜電)
。HE90 (open back, 靜電)
。he1000se (open back)
。HEDDphone (open back)
。K1000 (speaker)
。L3000 (closed back)
。L5000 (closed back)
。LCD4 (open back, 平板)
。MDR-R10 (open back)
。Omega (+ T2) (open back, 靜電)
。SR007Mk1 (open back, 靜電)
。SR009/ SR009s (open back, 靜電)
。SR1a (speaker, 鋁帶)
。suavara (open back, 平板)
。T1 90th (open back)
。T1 2nd (open back)

我係打手 2022-1-8 20:06:09 on-ear推介(歡迎提供推介)
。KPH30i clear(open back)
。Momentum on ear 2 (closed back)
。Porta Pro (open back)
。T51P (closed back)

Headphone 架(歡迎提供推介)
。ADV. DUAL SUSPENSION HEADPHONE HANGER


AMP/ DAC + AMP推介(歡迎提供推介)
Under 2k:
。DAC63115 (Combo, 膽前，唔知點解同aeron C101好似樣)
。Fiio K5 Pro (Combo)
。Magni (純AMP)
。ifi zen dac (Combo)
。ifi zen can (純AMP)
。JDS Lab Atom (純AMP)
。smsl SU8 (純DAC)
。Topping Dx3pro (Combo)

2-4k:
。A4BL (Combo)

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。aune s6 (Combo)

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。Burson Play (Combo)
。dark voice 336se (膽純AMP)
。Element 2 (Combo)

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。Monolith by Monoprice Desktop Balanced Headphone Amplifier and DAC with THX AAA Technology (Combo)
。Soekris dac1101 (Combo)
。THX AAA 789 (純AMP), drop.com
。Topping D70 (純DAC)
。Pico power (純AMP)

4-10k
。ADI-2 DAC (Combo)

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。AT-BHA100 (純AMP)
。AT-DAC100 (純DAC)
。Burson Soloist 3XP (純AMP)
。DA250 (Combo)
。DacMagic 200M (Combo)
。micro iDSD Black Label (Combo)

10k以上
work in progress
。Burson conductor 3XR (Combo)
。gsx mk2 (純AMP)
。gsx mini (純AMP)
。MHA200 (膽純AMP)
。Moon 430Ha (純AMP)
。Nuprime amg-hpa (純AMP)
。wa22 (膽純AMP)

電腦播放軟件推介(歡迎提供推介)
。Foobar 2000 (Windows)
免費，多人用，有唔同plugin 及theme
。jriver (Windows, Mac, Linux)
$79.98 US三平台，$59.98 US單平台
多人用，好聲過foobar
。TuneBrowser (Windows)
$3080 yen (約 $210港幣)，平得黎好聲過foobar，有巴打話分析力好過jriver
。jplay (Windows)
€149.00
電腦播歌高級玩法，最複雜setup 要分2部PC，一部做decode，一部做control同storage
jplay本身有player，不過係headless，要用其他software如foobar/ jriver控制

我係打手 2022-1-8 20:08:29 last comment

想升級電源 因為聲底好濛同燥 但新手無從入手

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小弟主要房間聽歌 但同時好多電子嘢喺隔離

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set up: 普通牆插位>普通拖板(for 電腦,Wifi,dac amp)>dac amp原裝跟機線

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問題嚟了
係咪先買Gotham電源線 比dac amp, 接著才買濾波拖板，最後換壁插，穿牆線咁樣？
升級方面邊度影響最大？

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聽歌時係咪熄曬電腦 wifi 先出到最靚聲？
唔該曬巴打們

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我係打手 2022-1-8 20:08:53 https://youtu.be/wFQ3wyqITP8

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Oh_Yeah 2022-1-8 20:09:09 打手巴中 1001 兼開新 post

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我係打手 2022-1-8 20:09:48

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不妨濛1點 2022-1-8 20:12:52

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不妨濛1點 2022-1-8 20:14:06 辛苦曬打手巴

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我係打手 2022-1-8 20:17:15 之前辛苦其他巴打

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零時差 2022-1-8 20:19:32 趺左支G733 MIC 最後買左snowball

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我係打手 2022-1-8 20:20:19 snowball
個名好貼切

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T1_90th 2022-1-8 20:22:03

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我係打手 2022-1-8 20:26:23

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@不了@ 2022-1-8 20:32:49 純拖板+ 主動式地盒 +平衡牛

換左就有分別

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nokia安全套 2022-1-8 20:35:37 留名

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btw po頭紅字

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之前都唔記得加添

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我係打手 2022-1-8 20:35:59

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我係打手 2022-1-8 20:38:42 題外話，我訂左呢隻
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/audeze-filter/x/20590103?utm_campaign=bck-01072022update&utm_medium=email&utm_source=sailthru&utm_term=#/

Oh_Yeah 2022-1-8 20:40:23

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不妨濛1點 2022-1-8 20:41:07 Search 完一額汗 真係玩唔起

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等我換咗拖板再睇吓值唔值得玩先

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@不了@ 2022-1-8 20:41:25 11301

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86215 >dac
87215 >amp

@不了@ 2022-1-8 20:43:08 主動式地盒
唔可以插 過濾左既拖板, 一定要用街電先有feel

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@不了@ 2022-1-8 20:43:57 回錯

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不妨濛1點 2022-1-8 20:46:14 明白曬 照你意思去做

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nokia安全套 2022-1-8 20:48:55 又導人上九樓

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