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SmartW 2016-12-10 00:02:02
Which of the following construction requires a fire rating period?
(1) Non-load-bearing partition walls between retail shops inside a shopping arcade of a single owner and management
(2) Reinforced concrete roof slab above the office portion of a 40-storey high office tower
(3) A steel footbridge with 1.1m parapet connecting two residential towers inside a private residential development
(4) A 1500 sq. m. by 4.5m high single storey steel building for industrial use, with all sides setback from the site boundary by 8 metres
A. (1) and (4) only
B. (2) and (3) only
C. (3) and (4) only
D. none of the above



ans: B
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[i m sure that options (1) & (4) 應該唔駛FRR
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我反而覺得係A
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1) Partition walls separating different occupancies shall have adequate FRR

2) If not refuge roof/forming part of MoE, no need FRR

3) Not all cases require FRR for linked bridge

4) External walls shall have FRR wor



i m sure that options (1) & (4) 應該唔駛FRR (re. "copy & paste" from fire code 2011)


Clause C7.3
Provided that the fire compartment area limitations in Table C1 are complied with, separation by fire barriers are not required between different occupancies for the following
uses:
(a) Use Classification 4a; or <--- offices
(b) Retail shops in Use Classification 4b.

For shopping arcade, retail shops are not required to be separated from the common arcade or mall area by fire barriers taking into account that the shops are under a common management and a common fire alarm system actuated by a sprinkler alarm or by break glass points is installed.


Clause C4.3
Where a single-storey building does not exceed 7,000m³ in volume and 7.5m in height, any steelwork construction may be unprotected, provided that the building is separated from any adjoining building or the site boundary by a clear unobstructed open space not less than 6m
in width.



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青山話事人 2016-12-10 00:24:29
Which of the following construction requires a fire rating period?
(1) Non-load-bearing partition walls between retail shops inside a shopping arcade of a single owner and management
(2) Reinforced concrete roof slab above the office portion of a 40-storey high office tower
(3) A steel footbridge with 1.1m parapet connecting two residential towers inside a private residential development
(4) A 1500 sq. m. by 4.5m high single storey steel building for industrial use, with all sides setback from the site boundary by 8 metres
A. (1) and (4) only
B. (2) and (3) only
C. (3) and (4) only
D. none of the above



ans: B
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[i m sure that options (1) & (4) 應該唔駛FRR
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我反而覺得係A
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1) Partition walls separating different occupancies shall have adequate FRR

2) If not refuge roof/forming part of MoE, no need FRR

3) Not all cases require FRR for linked bridge

4) External walls shall have FRR wor




Clause C15.1
A bridge may link two or more buildings and should comply with the following:-

(a) Where fire barrier is provided at each end of the bridge, the elements of construction of the bridge and such fire barriers should have the longest of the FRR of the storey(s) the bridge links. If the fire barriers are fire shutters, by-pass lobbies clearly indicated by exit signs should be provided. The external walls at the junctions of the bridge and the building(s) should comply with the requirements in Subsection C5.

(b) Where no fire barrier is provided at each end of the bridge and the bridge is unenclosed, i.e. both sides of the bridge are provided with, throughout its whole length, protective barriers or parapets not higher than 1.2m, it should be constructed of non-combustible materials and the elements of construction should have the longest of the FRR of the storey(s) it links.

(c) Where no fire barrier is provided at each end of the bridge and the bridge is not unenclosed, it will be regarded as an integral part of the fire compartment it links and should comply with the relevant requirements in this Code with regards to the building(s) it links.


it seems that no matter what situations (a), (b) & (c) are, FRR is required for linking bridge



I don't think the question is asking Elements of Construction. Coz FRR for EOC is always required.



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我反而覺得(1)唔洗FRR

1. Shopping arcade同retail shop都係under classification 4b
2. Shopping arcade同retail shop可以係used for same occupancies
大家都係serve街客
比夠dv就已經足夠

今年畢業捱緊consultant,,希望各位前輩賜教下


could you please name 1 shopping arcade in hk which is “可以係used for same occupancies“ ?


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我開頭理解錯左以為係同一type occupancies
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沙門基利 2016-12-10 10:39:56 留名
綠帽批發商 2016-12-10 23:31:53 想問下考到rics出黎搵工同考到hkis出黎搵搵工個分別大唔大
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ChanTingKai 2016-12-11 02:22:55
我想問bs落唔落到地盤做apc or cow個啲
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利申翻垃圾ive仔一個


都有,degree grad 通常做1/2年會搵到developer/client side既工可以跳槽

因為developer鐘意請有site exp既人,bs仔想入developer既可以諗諗

唔該曬 咁但係落左site既話仲可以考得翻個bs牌?
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臨早洩先黎落雨 2016-12-11 02:26:58
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有冇工程撚識睇呢張表
我唔係好明點睇
腸油
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張五常 2016-12-11 02:40:34 此回覆已被刪除
抑鬱的小毒撚 2016-12-11 10:42:06 3年u grad main con qs
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抑鬱的小毒撚 2016-12-11 10:44:43 好撚想轉行,呢幾年成日吹奏qs缺人,但根本係workload 加人工唔加,依家u grad main con 3年先26k, 我覺得比起d workload真係好撚underpaid
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涼茶bb 2016-12-11 11:25:11 此回覆已被刪除
SmartW 2016-12-11 11:49:42
其實搵啲讀bs既人去做pc仲好過搵啲讀building studies / construction management 既人做pc仲好啦,bs又熟例又識畫圖


PC 好惡做.......應該好少讀BS 既人想做呢啲位. 同埋你要預無得簽簿

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SmartW 2016-12-11 11:51:45


都有,degree grad 通常做1/2年會搵到developer/client side既工可以跳槽

因為developer鐘意請有site exp既人,bs仔想入developer既可以諗諗

唔該曬 咁但係落左site既話仲可以考得翻個bs牌?
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考唔到,因為contractor 極少數有chartered bs 幫你簽簿。你要預轉左入developer 先有人幫你簽。
Jerk 2016-12-11 12:11:11
Fresh grad qs仔留明
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Consultant定contractor?
功不唐捐 2016-12-11 12:30:38 留名
張五常 2016-12-11 12:32:30 此回覆已被刪除
好撚煩過煩閪 2016-12-11 13:34:00 有無人知16年fresh grad main con最高仲有無17k (ive)
SmartW 2016-12-11 13:41:59

唔該曬 咁但係落左site既話仲可以考得翻個bs牌?
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考唔到,因為contractor 極少數有chartered bs 幫你簽簿。你要預轉左入developer 先有人幫你簽。


其實,預左唔考牌既bs,係唔係去做pc仲大發圍?


pc 都好難發圍,好睇connection,你埋唔埋到堆,etc
悲觀哲學家 2016-12-11 16:21:42 今日投左票未 各位師兄
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我爸是摩佬 2016-12-11 16:29:40 Shitty asso qs 留名 自知升唔返上去 對前路好迷惘
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grad左有d咩選擇
一寸相思 2016-12-11 16:37:54
今日投左票未 各位師兄
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今晚食完飯先去
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SirAlexFerguson 2016-12-11 18:06:16
今日投左票未 各位師兄
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25 個,唔好漏

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涼茶bb 2016-12-11 22:48:59 此回覆已被刪除
小明坐水車 2016-12-11 22:52:27 做consultant qs 好辛苦 覺得唔會有前途
養隻柴犬 2016-12-11 23:10:01 留名
抑鬱的小毒撚 2016-12-11 23:18:46
做consultant qs 好辛苦 覺得唔會有前途


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