LIHKG [ECON] 2017 DSE經濟科討論區(2)
牛餐肉屌女 2017-4-16 22:41:50
屌 樓上條友做乜鳩呀
有冇用過腦有人會未做個mock架?
浪費左理性巴打一番心意


好無禮貌
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唔好意思囉咁
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唔你話你,話緊個個巴打
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令你誤會sor

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朱古力當是酒 2017-4-16 22:42:12
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想問下呢 cpc係咪可以咁樣塞係兩條ppf中間? 咁ge話 AA個個國家係咪會有損失?
但呢個仍然係mutually beneficial trade, 因為cpc個slope介乎係有互相有利貿易比率範圍,我咁理解又有無錯?
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一幅圖有無限條cpc(tot)
parallel shift左shift右都得
所以唔係話係兩條ppf中間就會有loss
大毛好得意 2017-4-16 22:47:52 求救
Q.
a recovery of economy of its trading partner
點樣解決到
fiscal deficit
低級會員 2017-4-16 22:51:07
求救
Q.
a recovery of economy of its trading partner
點樣解決到
fiscal deficit

X 升 AD 升 Y 升 T 升 T-G 升
:^(
朱古力當是酒 2017-4-16 22:51:13
求救
Q.
a recovery of economy of its trading partner
點樣解決到
fiscal deficit

fiscal deficit: T<G
要令deficit少啲 就要T升/G跌
trading partner econ好左 C升 M升
即係自己國家X升
X升 NX升 AD升
direct tax revenue升
T升
應該係咁
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因子 2017-4-16 22:51:24
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想問下咩叫total amount of money held by public,則係ma?

錯圖sorry

點解二會錯 係咪因為ad 跌-> price level & real output 跌 -> money demand shift leftwards 所以quantity demanded of money跌
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求各位指證
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(2) 唔係講緊cp咩? quantity demanded of money好似唔關cp事
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咁cp點解會點跌
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答案係咩, 我中學生,唔敢鳩答
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我暫時咁睇,如果真係講緊cp, 答案應該係uncertain掛,因為transfer payment多左,但d人唔一定會禁出黎做現金,所以對cp影響應該唔知。


btw巴打你好似唔係太明白Ma係咩,其實ma係指 持有貨幣作為資產 ge需求,應該同上面個d唔啦更
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唔該哂巴打
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但都係唔係好明 ma小左 唔係即係啲人hold cash的demand小左 咁cp唔係會跌咩
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唔係,ma少左其實係講緊佢地對" 以貨幣作為資產 " 呢個demand細左。背後你當係講緊一個投資ge故事。我當你可以選擇以買樓去保存你ge持產同以現金保持你現有資產。如果你預期通脹率上升,即等於你預期purchasing power會decrease, 咁你自然就唔會咁想以 貨幣ge形式保存你ge資產,你會轉以買物業保存,由此ma下降。

( 另外,inflationary expectation是為影響ma ge factor之一)

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唔明
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咁你demand去hold貨幣作資產小左 唔係會小左cp咩? 因為多左cash轉做income bearing assets ,好似bonds share果啲咁
牛餐肉屌女 2017-4-16 22:58:29
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想問下咩叫total amount of money held by public,則係ma?

錯圖sorry

點解二會錯 係咪因為ad 跌-> price level & real output 跌 -> money demand shift leftwards 所以quantity demanded of money跌
:^(
求各位指證
:^(


(2) 唔係講緊cp咩? quantity demanded of money好似唔關cp事
:^(

咁cp點解會點跌
:^(


答案係咩, 我中學生,唔敢鳩答
:^(

我暫時咁睇,如果真係講緊cp, 答案應該係uncertain掛,因為transfer payment多左,但d人唔一定會禁出黎做現金,所以對cp影響應該唔知。


btw巴打你好似唔係太明白Ma係咩,其實ma係指 持有貨幣作為資產 ge需求,應該同上面個d唔啦更
:^(


唔該哂巴打
:^(
但都係唔係好明 ma小左 唔係即係啲人hold cash的demand小左 咁cp唔係會跌咩
:^(
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唔係,ma少左其實係講緊佢地對" 以貨幣作為資產 " 呢個demand細左。背後你當係講緊一個投資ge故事。我當你可以選擇以買樓去保存你ge持產同以現金保持你現有資產。如果你預期通脹率上升,即等於你預期purchasing power會decrease, 咁你自然就唔會咁想以 貨幣ge形式保存你ge資產,你會轉以買物業保存,由此ma下降。

( 另外,inflationary expectation是為影響ma ge factor之一)[/quote]

總括而言,ma細左只係講緊人對以貨幣作為資產呢個需求細左,需求只係講緊你對hold 住呢樣野作為你ge資產ge "渴望" 細左。quantity demanded of cash應該同Cp唔係同一樣ge野,quantity demanded of money係指係某一nominal interest rate底下,你對貨幣ge所需求數量,呢個量可以因 i ge改變而改變。而cp就係一個實數,係真係計緊現時市面上 cash held by non bank public ge量, 係唔關 i仔同人類ge需求事。

小弟愚見,有錯請屌
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等小弟學野
牛餐肉屌女 2017-4-16 23:03:47 巴打應該係confuse左係 qd of $ 同cp係咪同一樣ge野黎呢個位。 照我推斷,應該唔會係。 cp係真真正正ge一個值講緊市面上公眾持有ge流通貨幣數量,而唔係under某一 i下你對貨幣需求ge數量。兩者好大分別。
咁認真做乜啫 2017-4-16 23:08:41 Lv3要分別係兩份卷岩幾多分?
因子 2017-4-16 23:14:01
巴打應該係confuse左係 qd of $ 同cp係咪同一樣ge野黎呢個位。 照我推斷,應該唔會係。 cp係真真正正ge一個值講緊市面上公眾持有ge流通貨幣數量,而唔係under某一 i下你對貨幣需求ge數量。兩者好大分別。

好似有小小明 咁係咪即係cp只會係remittance 去外國先會跌
因子 2017-4-16 23:14:33
巴打應該係confuse左係 qd of $ 同cp係咪同一樣ge野黎呢個位。 照我推斷,應該唔會係。 cp係真真正正ge一個值講緊市面上公眾持有ge流通貨幣數量,而唔係under某一 i下你對貨幣需求ge數量。兩者好大分別。

真心多謝哂巴打你 祝你有理想成績
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牛餐肉屌女 2017-4-16 23:27:07
巴打應該係confuse左係 qd of $ 同cp係咪同一樣ge野黎呢個位。 照我推斷,應該唔會係。 cp係真真正正ge一個值講緊市面上公眾持有ge流通貨幣數量,而唔係under某一 i下你對貨幣需求ge數量。兩者好大分別。

好似有小小明 咁係咪即係cp只會係remittance 去外國先會跌


唔只。仲有咩omo啊,個堆policy都會郁到cp( 係dse syllabus)
仲有就係你入錢入銀行到cp就會少左
要諗cp係咩黎,其實你可以幻想有個圈,個圈係一個economy, 呢個圈被人斬開左一半,一半係 bank一半係公眾( 市民 空間 即係普通都市,我地生活ge 地方) , 如果有d貨幣唔係個bank到,佢就係cp, 而貨幣走出左呢個圈or入左bank都唔係cp. cp減少就係d $$ 走左出圈( 去外國 ) or入左bank .....
另外,入左bank ge $$ 就係deposit
咁ge話,成個圈入面ge $$ 加埋就係Ms
呢個係我之前睇econ post有個巴打咁講,我覺得好有趣
周子瑜_쯔위 2017-4-16 23:45:21
Lv3要分別係兩份卷岩幾多分?

一半多d
因子 2017-4-16 23:49:24
巴打應該係confuse左係 qd of $ 同cp係咪同一樣ge野黎呢個位。 照我推斷,應該唔會係。 cp係真真正正ge一個值講緊市面上公眾持有ge流通貨幣數量,而唔係under某一 i下你對貨幣需求ge數量。兩者好大分別。

好似有小小明 咁係咪即係cp只會係remittance 去外國先會跌


唔只。仲有咩omo啊,個堆policy都會郁到cp( 係dse syllabus)
仲有就係你入錢入銀行到cp就會少左
要諗cp係咩黎,其實你可以幻想有個圈,個圈係一個economy, 呢個圈被人斬開左一半,一半係 bank一半係公眾( 市民 空間 即係普通都市,我地生活ge 地方) , 如果有d貨幣唔係個bank到,佢就係cp, 而貨幣走出左呢個圈or入左bank都唔係cp. cp減少就係d $$ 走左出圈( 去外國 ) or入左bank .....
另外,入左bank ge $$ 就係deposit
咁ge話,成個圈入面ge $$ 加埋就係Ms
呢個係我之前睇econ post有個巴打咁講,我覺得好有趣

Thanks巴打
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因子 2017-4-16 23:50:02
有冇人解釋下利率與債券既關係
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上個post有講
dse econ :
interest rate drop, return for lending out money drop, fewer ppl lend out money, i.e. supply of bonds drops, bond price increases.
vice versa

總之利率同債券價格係相反關係

點解唔係fewer people buy bonds->demand decrease?
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呢個有冇人可以指證我
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大毛好得意 2017-4-16 23:54:54
求救
Q.
a recovery of economy of its trading partner
點樣解決到
fiscal deficit

X 升 AD 升 Y 升 T 升 T-G 升
:^(

求救
Q.
a recovery of economy of its trading partner
點樣解決到
fiscal deficit

fiscal deficit: T<G
要令deficit少啲 就要T升/G跌
trading partner econ好左 C升 M升
即係自己國家X升
X升 NX升 AD升
direct tax revenue升
T升
應該係咁
:^(

唔該~~
朱古力當是酒 2017-4-16 23:57:48
有冇人解釋下利率與債券既關係
:^(
:^(
:^(

上個post有講
dse econ :
interest rate drop, return for lending out money drop, fewer ppl lend out money, i.e. supply of bonds drops, bond price increases.
vice versa

總之利率同債券價格係相反關係

點解唔係fewer people buy bonds->demand decrease?
:^(

:^(
:^(
:^(

呢個有冇人可以指證我
:^(

interest rate跌只會令到quantity demanded for money跌
就好似price跌只會令到qd跌咁
係movement along the same curve
所以唔會構成d跌
但因為借錢比人嘅cost高左(賺少左)
所以supply of bonds跌
原理同cost of production升 s跌一樣
利申唔肯定
:^(
朱古力當是酒 2017-4-16 23:58:56
有冇人解釋下利率與債券既關係
:^(
:^(
:^(

上個post有講
dse econ :
interest rate drop, return for lending out money drop, fewer ppl lend out money, i.e. supply of bonds drops, bond price increases.
vice versa

總之利率同債券價格係相反關係

點解唔係fewer people buy bonds->demand decrease?
:^(

:^(
:^(
:^(

呢個有冇人可以指證我
:^(

interest rate跌只會令到quantity demanded for money
就好似price跌只會令到qd
係movement along the same curve
所以唔會構成d跌
但因為借錢比人嘅cost高左(賺少左)
所以supply of bonds跌
原理同cost of production升 s跌一樣
利申唔肯定
:^(

自膠
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因子 2017-4-17 00:08:23
有冇人解釋下利率與債券既關係
:^(
:^(
:^(

上個post有講
dse econ :
interest rate drop, return for lending out money drop, fewer ppl lend out money, i.e. supply of bonds drops, bond price increases.
vice versa

總之利率同債券價格係相反關係

點解唔係fewer people buy bonds->demand decrease?
:^(

:^(
:^(
:^(

呢個有冇人可以指證我
:^(

interest rate跌只會令到quantity demanded for money跌
就好似price跌只會令到qd跌咁
係movement along the same curve
所以唔會構成d跌
但因為借錢比人嘅cost高左(賺少左)
所以supply of bonds跌
原理同cost of production升 s跌一樣
利申唔肯定
:^(

唔明喎
:^(
bonds唔係公司整岀黎raise capital咩? 咁interest rate下跌即係cost of earlier availability of money/consumption跌。咁cost 下跌,公司咪肯整多啲bonds岀黎囉,supply increase.
:^(
點解我會咁亂 好灰
:^(
:^(
牛餐肉屌女 2017-4-17 00:26:00
有冇人解釋下利率與債券既關係
:^(
:^(
:^(

上個post有講
dse econ :
interest rate drop, return for lending out money drop, fewer ppl lend out money, i.e. supply of bonds drops, bond price increases.
vice versa

總之利率同債券價格係相反關係

點解唔係fewer people buy bonds->demand decrease?
:^(

:^(
:^(
:^(

呢個有冇人可以指證我
:^(

interest rate跌只會令到quantity demanded for money跌
就好似price跌只會令到qd跌咁
係movement along the same curve
所以唔會構成d跌
但因為借錢比人嘅cost高左(賺少左)
所以supply of bonds跌
原理同cost of production升 s跌一樣
利申唔肯定
:^(

唔明喎
:^(
bonds唔係公司整岀黎raise capital咩? 咁interest rate下跌即係cost of earlier availability of money/consumption跌。咁cost 下跌,公司咪肯整多啲bonds岀黎囉,supply increase.
:^(
點解我會咁亂 好灰
:^(
:^(


巴打,睇黎你confuse左係bond係d咩黎,呢個concept
:^(
bond即係債券,佢ge功用係講公司進行" 舉債融資 ", 即係透過向大眾投資者" 借$ " 而raise capital, 咁債券就係一張紙,係由公司發比借左$ 比佢ge投資者,係一張" 借據 ",
咁至於點解 i仔 跌會令到 bond price跌呢,就要睇下個"受者"( recipient )
投資者之所以會借$ 比公司( 即係買債券 ) 係因為個利率ge回報,利率愈高,買債券ge點報愈高,咁即係話當利率上升,人們買債券ge收益會上升。咁對債券demand上升,咁債券價格就會上升,vice versa.
牛餐肉屌女 2017-4-17 00:33:23 拿,上述只係小弟愚見,有錯請屌。。
小弟只一個自修econ ge夜校中中仔,今年第一次dse
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btw巴打係咪將bond諗左做股票?
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同埋 利率interest rate上升,會令到投資者投資更多唔係無跡可尋。。。可以諗下 ma curve, 當 i仔上升, 咁 quantity demanded for holding money as asset decrease ( ma curve係 downwards sloping) 咁即係話,當i仔上升,人們持左貨幣作資產ge"量"
會下降,即換句話講就係投資量上升。咁ge話對於bond/share ge市場,i仔上升係非價格因素,所以 d會上升

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因子 2017-4-17 00:46:48

上個post有講
dse econ :
interest rate drop, return for lending out money drop, fewer ppl lend out money, i.e. supply of bonds drops, bond price increases.
vice versa

總之利率同債券價格係相反關係

點解唔係fewer people buy bonds->demand decrease?
:^(

:^(
:^(
:^(

呢個有冇人可以指證我
:^(

interest rate跌只會令到quantity demanded for money跌
就好似price跌只會令到qd跌咁
係movement along the same curve
所以唔會構成d跌
但因為借錢比人嘅cost高左(賺少左)
所以supply of bonds跌
原理同cost of production升 s跌一樣
利申唔肯定
:^(

唔明喎
:^(
bonds唔係公司整岀黎raise capital咩? 咁interest rate下跌即係cost of earlier availability of money/consumption跌。咁cost 下跌,公司咪肯整多啲bonds岀黎囉,supply increase.
:^(
點解我會咁亂 好灰
:^(
:^(


巴打,睇黎你confuse左係bond係d咩黎,呢個concept
:^(
bond即係債券,佢ge功用係講公司進行" 舉債融資 ", 即係透過向大眾投資者" 借$ " 而raise capital, 咁債券就係一張紙,係由公司發比借左$ 比佢ge投資者,係一張" 借據 ",
咁至於點解 i仔 跌會令到 bond price跌呢,就要睇下個"受者"( recipient )
投資者之所以會借$ 比公司( 即係買債券 ) 係因為個利率ge回報,利率愈高,買債券ge點報愈高,咁即係話當利率上升,人們買債券ge收益會上升。咁對債券demand上升,咁債券價格就會上升,vice versa.


巴打你係同我講定第二位巴打講 我覺得我同你講啲野係一樣喎
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好亂阿
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牛餐肉屌女 2017-4-17 00:52:18

上個post有講
dse econ :
interest rate drop, return for lending out money drop, fewer ppl lend out money, i.e. supply of bonds drops, bond price increases.
vice versa

總之利率同債券價格係相反關係

點解唔係fewer people buy bonds->demand decrease?
:^(

:^(
:^(
:^(

呢個有冇人可以指證我
:^(

interest rate跌只會令到quantity demanded for money跌
就好似price跌只會令到qd跌咁
係movement along the same curve
所以唔會構成d跌
但因為借錢比人嘅cost高左(賺少左)
所以supply of bonds跌
原理同cost of production升 s跌一樣
利申唔肯定
:^(

唔明喎
:^(
bonds唔係公司整岀黎raise capital咩? 咁interest rate下跌即係cost of earlier availability of money/consumption跌。咁cost 下跌,公司咪肯整多啲bonds岀黎囉,supply increase.
:^(
點解我會咁亂 好灰
:^(
:^(


巴打,睇黎你confuse左係bond係d咩黎,呢個concept
:^(
bond即係債券,佢ge功用係講公司進行" 舉債融資 ", 即係透過向大眾投資者" 借$ " 而raise capital, 咁債券就係一張紙,係由公司發比借左$ 比佢ge投資者,係一張" 借據 ",
咁至於點解 i仔 跌會令到 bond price跌呢,就要睇下個"受者"( recipient )
投資者之所以會借$ 比公司( 即係買債券 ) 係因為個利率ge回報,利率愈高,買債券ge點報愈高,咁即係話當利率上升,人們買債券ge收益會上升。咁對債券demand上升,咁債券價格就會上升,vice versa.


巴打你係同我講定第二位巴打講 我覺得我同你講啲野係一樣喎
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sorry咁可能係我錯。你都係聽其他巴打講啦
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我只係温左成日。屎忽痕無野做上黎9 up同學野,唔好認真
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SoA 2017-4-17 01:00:40 此回覆已被刪除
因子 2017-4-17 01:08:47
其實你地邊到見到題目問你how interest rate affects bond price ,我唔覺得會問,太複雜

但要識how EXPECTED interest rate affecta bond price

巴打講下依個等我地學下野ok?
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順便可唔可以再講下money demand會唔會影響到cash held by non bank public?你的睇去係咪同頭先位巴打一樣?
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呢兩樣野係我最亂 多謝頭先位巴打
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幫左好多
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