計劃進修PhD/Research討論區 (9) 以有涯隨無涯 殆已
鎂鋁磷硫碳 2017-4-10 18:18:02
其實msc 好唔好入joint program?

有個歐洲2年msc program joint左法國、德國、瑞士 三個地方。

但走黎走去,會唔會同prof既attachment唔夠多?


我覺得你講個個Joint Programme好抵屌
Stratsbourg Basel Freiburg 其實好近
三地之間travel隨時容易過between三大
:^(

就network同flexibility黎睇 已經好正
再加上programme有差唔多一半non europeans
仲有Basel有Novartis, Roche加其他藥廠
:^(

隨身係industry做thesis又得
個人覺得Basel個名最響 thesis project可以試下
:^(

:^(
巴打好熟,瞬間知道我講緊邊個program仲提供咁多資料

我而家唯一猶豫既係Strasbourg個ranking太低(雖然life sci subject ranking唔錯),而張cert淨係印Strasbourg個名

有冇得睇佢地d graduate 出路?
問秘書可能有


:^(
網站冇寫,我問下

不過我諗master rank幾多應該唔太重要,除非係top 15/30 名校


Results
They have been awarded a master degree in neuroscience: 90%
They had to stop their training for personal/economical reasons: 2.9%
They left to get a job: 2.9%
They left to continue their clinical job: 2.9%
They left to continue another master training: 1.3%
Where are they now ?
They are presently doing a PhD: 85%
They were awarded and exert a clinical activity: 10%
They were awarded and are still looking for a job or PhD proposal: 5%

巴打都諗住報呢個program?


我唔係neuro 但歐洲近瑞士既area都略有所聞咁
我今年會去英國DPhil
:^(
computational & structural bio

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婆你呀麼 2017-4-10 18:19:00
其實msc 好唔好入joint program?

有個歐洲2年msc program joint左法國、德國、瑞士 三個地方。

但走黎走去,會唔會同prof既attachment唔夠多?


我覺得你講個個Joint Programme好抵屌
Stratsbourg Basel Freiburg 其實好近
三地之間travel隨時容易過between三大
:^(

就network同flexibility黎睇 已經好正
再加上programme有差唔多一半non europeans
仲有Basel有Novartis, Roche加其他藥廠
:^(

隨身係industry做thesis又得
個人覺得Basel個名最響 thesis project可以試下
:^(

:^(
巴打好熟,瞬間知道我講緊邊個program仲提供咁多資料

我而家唯一猶豫既係Strasbourg個ranking太低(雖然life sci subject ranking唔錯),而張cert淨係印Strasbourg個名


法國大學ranking係國際舞台係唔高,但有得解 始終branding冇擺咁多資源 (德國大學都係,應該deserve更高ranking)
延伸閱讀:http://theconversation.com/why-do-french-universities-lag-behind-in-international-rankings-58197

如果你想17年開始master 哩個programme似乎幾好
but我見佢deadline又extend左 感覺上好似報名人數唔多
:^(

不過如果你想18年開始,咁你依家報既option又多番d既
講真你有expected first既話可以aim高d
例如:Goettingen (陳雲母校
:^(
) https://www.gpneuro.uni-goettingen.de
Master都有錢收
但個邊好想綁住學生讀埋PhD 但好多學生當然想攞MSc然後在aim higher
當然可以考慮下瑞士
:^(
(我係ETH依家)
瑞士PhD人工高到喊
:^(

:^(

通常biosciences都係得standard rate,但實收已經有HKD 27000 per month
當然,生活費係高,但保證比起德國overall quality of life係高d

:^(

postdoc人工係高到嚇死人
:^(


anyway但我識人最後去左Goettingen instead of ETH
唔知係咪neuro佢地真係好勁喇

瑞士真係好好J
:^(

做死一世postdoc都濟啦屌
:^(
J痕叔叔 2017-4-10 18:20:16
有無巴打係或者有做management/business field paper?
:^(

做乜鳩
鎂鋁磷硫碳 2017-4-10 18:23:55
瑞士真係好好J
:^(

做死一世postdoc都濟啦屌
:^(

我lab個postdoc
係Cambridge轉過黎
依家高人工過佢cambridge個PI
:^(
婆你呀麼 2017-4-10 18:24:59
瑞士真係好好J
:^(

做死一世postdoc都濟啦屌
:^(

我lab個postdoc
係Cambridge轉過黎
依家高人工過佢cambridge個PI
:^(

:^(
cls 高價打工仔 又唔洗煩咁多r funding野
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婆你呀麼 2017-4-10 18:33:17
其實msc 好唔好入joint program?

有個歐洲2年msc program joint左法國、德國、瑞士 三個地方。

但走黎走去,會唔會同prof既attachment唔夠多?


我覺得你講個個Joint Programme好抵屌
Stratsbourg Basel Freiburg 其實好近
三地之間travel隨時容易過between三大
:^(

就network同flexibility黎睇 已經好正
再加上programme有差唔多一半non europeans
仲有Basel有Novartis, Roche加其他藥廠
:^(

隨身係industry做thesis又得
個人覺得Basel個名最響 thesis project可以試下
:^(

:^(
巴打好熟,瞬間知道我講緊邊個program仲提供咁多資料

我而家唯一猶豫既係Strasbourg個ranking太低(雖然life sci subject ranking唔錯),而張cert淨係印Strasbourg個名

有冇得睇佢地d graduate 出路?
問秘書可能有


:^(
網站冇寫,我問下

不過我諗master rank幾多應該唔太重要,除非係top 15/30 名校


Results
They have been awarded a master degree in neuroscience: 90%
They had to stop their training for personal/economical reasons: 2.9%
They left to get a job: 2.9%
They left to continue their clinical job: 2.9%
They left to continue another master training: 1.3%
Where are they now ?
They are presently doing a PhD: 85%
They were awarded and exert a clinical activity: 10%
They were awarded and are still looking for a job or PhD proposal: 5%

巴打都諗住報呢個program?


我唔係neuro 但歐洲近瑞士既area都略有所聞咁
我今年會去英國DPhil
:^(
computational & structural bio

:^(
Adam_Smith 2017-4-10 18:36:27
有無巴打係或者有做management/business field paper?
:^(

做乜鳩

是咁的 今日同老細傾PhD application, 佢見到我個list成堆psycho就話係美國前途好暗淡人工低,相反玩management既behavioral science 會更有錢途,更加易tenure 因為management 多top tier 好似AMJ AMR. 但改變影響太大,因為我始終比較鍾意玩individual level psycho decision making多過OB marco, 但係又要為更遠諗 Uncle J你點睇
:^(
驢仔 2017-4-10 18:39:06
Croucher經驗求分享
:^(

唔睇proposal咁睇咩
:^(


當然proposal係重要
我指是到最後interview時 panel 問你既野其實好general (但可能scholarship同fellowship interview既問法會唔同啦)

panel幾個professor可能冇一個係你個field
所以grill唔到你好多 (關於個project方面)

interview個陣佢問我關於我個field既history (crystallography)
然後解釋下我個research點貢獻社會

講到尾啦 proposal要認真寫 寫到申請grant咁樣最好
我覺得selection係based on你份proposal有幾認真
入到interview stage反而可以諗下點包裝自己

一d數字:
官方話我知success rate 20% (其實幾高)
每年scholar同fellow各十個左右 年年唔同
今年香港interview round有>30 candidates (scholarship+fellowship)
英國round(5月先係)會有12個
由此可推算 入到interview round之後success rate 50/50

巴打
:^(
有興趣想知proposal有咩要注意
:^(


Croucher爭係accept STEM field application
:^(
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Croucher proposal 愈明校愈好
唔係太出名ge 學校機會細 d

同埋應該係3 份一 technology, 3份+1 science 同 +3份1 medic
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傳教士谷哥 2017-4-10 18:42:07
有無巴打係或者有做management/business field paper?
:^(

做乜鳩

是咁的 今日同老細傾PhD application, 佢見到我個list成堆psycho就話係美國前途好暗淡人工低,相反玩management既behavioral science 會更有錢途,更加易tenure 因為management 多top tier 好似AMJ AMR. 但改變影響太大,因為我始終比較鍾意玩individual level psycho decision making多過OB marco, 但係又要為更遠諗 Uncle J你點睇
:^(


佢見到我個list成堆psycho就話係美國前途好暗淡人工低

Really?
:^(

點低法
:^(

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Adam_Smith 2017-4-10 18:43:47
有無巴打係或者有做management/business field paper?
:^(

做乜鳩

是咁的 今日同老細傾PhD application, 佢見到我個list成堆psycho就話係美國前途好暗淡人工低,相反玩management既behavioral science 會更有錢途,更加易tenure 因為management 多top tier 好似AMJ AMR. 但改變影響太大,因為我始終比較鍾意玩individual level psycho decision making多過OB marco, 但係又要為更遠諗 Uncle J你點睇
:^(


佢見到我個list成堆psycho就話係美國前途好暗淡人工低

Really?
:^(

點低法
:^(

起碼差一個range, 最重要係tenure 因為都係睇你有幾多篇A management field多過behavioral psycho field, 令到相對比psycho prof容易拎tenure
驢仔 2017-4-10 18:45:09 不過想讀 ge 真係要諗諗
唔係想做 prof 其實讀 phd 好悶

最慘係
Academic 呢行好黑暗
出紙都係睇老細
Double blind review 都好
一眼就知邊個出

最on 9係
好多時 conference 同 journal review
D 老細都係掉比 d 細ge 做
我以前一年都做10 份8 份
通常都係睇頭睇尾算

之後d 人出紙都係抄抄下。
Idea 改少少又掉出來
鎂鋁磷硫碳 2017-4-10 18:45:27
Thanks for your information
:^(


Gottingen我第一round已被rejected
:^(


呢間U ranking唔高 (120左右),但佢d Msc program競爭大到痴線,我都聽過好多人唔去top school,反而去呢間。可能因為佢係max Planck既partner institute
:^(


承上喇 好多德國U都ranking唔太高
Goettingen 係科學歷史上好重要既地方,可能有historical fame 啦
max planck都可能係一個因素

兩年前apply過佢地molecular biology個Master
去左interview收左
但係Goettingen個感覺真係好悶
都係鍾意大城市
:^(
Афанасий 2017-4-10 18:50:18
Thanks for your information
:^(


Gottingen我第一round已被rejected
:^(


呢間U ranking唔高 (120左右),但佢d Msc program競爭大到痴線,我都聽過好多人唔去top school,反而去呢間。可能因為佢係max Planck既partner institute
:^(


承上喇 好多德國U都ranking唔太高
Goettingen 係科學歷史上好重要既地方,可能有historical fame 啦
max planck都可能係一個因素

兩年前apply過佢地molecular biology個Master
去左interview收左
但係Goettingen個感覺真係好悶
都係鍾意大城市
:^(

哥廷根出過novel prize既人數全世界頭十名,不過俾納粹黨趕盡殺絕後,就不復當年勇了
:^(

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_University_of_Göttingen_people
個list真係嚇死人
:^(
Michaelzaki 2017-4-10 18:50:43
有無巴打係或者有做management/business field paper?
:^(

做咩
:^(
:^(
Harry_傾 2017-4-10 18:51:42
Thanks for your information
:^(


Gottingen我第一round已被rejected
:^(


呢間U ranking唔高 (120左右),但佢d Msc program競爭大到痴線,我都聽過好多人唔去top school,反而去呢間。可能因為佢係max Planck既partner institute
:^(


承上喇 好多德國U都ranking唔太高
Goettingen 係科學歷史上好重要既地方,可能有historical fame 啦
max planck都可能係一個因素

兩年前apply過佢地molecular biology個Master
去左interview收左
但係Goettingen個感覺真係好悶
都係鍾意大城市
:^(

哥廷根出過novel prize既人數全世界頭十名,不過俾納粹黨趕盡殺絕後,就不復當年勇了
:^(

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_University_of_Göttingen_people
個list真係嚇死人
:^(

:^(
J痕叔叔 2017-4-10 18:54:33
有無巴打係或者有做management/business field paper?
:^(

做乜鳩

是咁的 今日同老細傾PhD application, 佢見到我個list成堆psycho就話係美國前途好暗淡人工低,相反玩management既behavioral science 會更有錢途,更加易tenure 因為management 多top tier 好似AMJ AMR. 但改變影響太大,因為我始終比較鍾意玩individual level psycho decision making多過OB marco, 但係又要為更遠諗 Uncle J你點睇
:^(


佢見到我個list成堆psycho就話係美國前途好暗淡人工低

Really?
:^(

點低法
:^(

起碼差一個range, 最重要係tenure 因為都係睇你有幾多篇A management field多過behavioral psycho field, 令到相對比psycho prof容易拎tenure


Tenure requirement唔知。不過有econ phd同學最尾搵左marketing/management school。
然後講marketing grad的人數少好多,變相容易搵工。
你讀左一輪behavioral野,其實都要諗下想點樣發展你讀過的野。要再pure啲定apply啲?
一言筆發 2017-4-10 18:54:57 多年前已經有位巴打 (好似係咀香園)
講美國psycho 前境一般
佢自己都由social psy 跳左去econ 定management 做faculty



利申:我成日都話psycho 遲走俾biology, neuroscience 食晒成個field!
Michaelzaki 2017-4-10 18:54:58
有無巴打係或者有做management/business field paper?
:^(

做乜鳩

是咁的 今日同老細傾PhD application, 佢見到我個list成堆psycho就話係美國前途好暗淡人工低,相反玩management既behavioral science 會更有錢途,更加易tenure 因為management 多top tier 好似AMJ AMR. 但改變影響太大,因為我始終比較鍾意玩individual level psycho decision making多過OB marco, 但係又要為更遠諗 Uncle J你點睇
:^(

讀psycho搵ap position搵management都得姐
同埋 你讀phd諗乜鳩錢途 諗錢就唔好讀啦
鎂鋁磷硫碳 2017-4-10 18:55:12
其實msc 好唔好入joint program?

有個歐洲2年msc program joint左法國、德國、瑞士 三個地方。

但走黎走去,會唔會同prof既attachment唔夠多?


我覺得你講個個Joint Programme好抵屌
Stratsbourg Basel Freiburg 其實好近
三地之間travel隨時容易過between三大
:^(

就network同flexibility黎睇 已經好正
再加上programme有差唔多一半non europeans
仲有Basel有Novartis, Roche加其他藥廠
:^(

隨身係industry做thesis又得
個人覺得Basel個名最響 thesis project可以試下
:^(

:^(
巴打好熟,瞬間知道我講緊邊個program仲提供咁多資料

我而家唯一猶豫既係Strasbourg個ranking太低(雖然life sci subject ranking唔錯),而張cert淨係印Strasbourg個名

有冇得睇佢地d graduate 出路?
問秘書可能有


:^(
網站冇寫,我問下

不過我諗master rank幾多應該唔太重要,除非係top 15/30 名校


Results
They have been awarded a master degree in neuroscience: 90%
They had to stop their training for personal/economical reasons: 2.9%
They left to get a job: 2.9%
They left to continue their clinical job: 2.9%
They left to continue another master training: 1.3%
Where are they now ?
They are presently doing a PhD: 85%
They were awarded and exert a clinical activity: 10%
They were awarded and are still looking for a job or PhD proposal: 5%

巴打都諗住報呢個program?


我唔係neuro 但歐洲近瑞士既area都略有所聞咁
我今年會去英國DPhil
:^(
computational & structural bio

:^(


:^(

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Michaelzaki 2017-4-10 18:56:36 發現之前同人傾個idea有人pub左一鳩毛一樣既野
Model一鳩毛一樣 同埋本身想做theory+experiment
佢又係咁做
:^(
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驢仔 2017-4-10 18:58:10
發現之前同人傾個idea有人pub左一鳩毛一樣既野
Model一鳩毛一樣 同埋本身想做theory+experiment
佢又係咁做
:^(
:^(


諗到個 idea 但無人做過先係奇怪
鎂鋁磷硫碳 2017-4-10 18:58:48
不過想讀 ge 真係要諗諗
唔係想做 prof 其實讀 phd 好悶

最慘係
Academic 呢行好黑暗
出紙都係睇老細
Double blind review 都好
一眼就知邊個出

最on 9係
好多時 conference 同 journal review
D 老細都係掉比 d 細ge 做
我以前一年都做10 份8 份
通常都係睇頭睇尾算

之後d 人出紙都係抄抄下。
Idea 改少少又掉出來


你係邊個國家?
行行都有佢地既規則
覺得做academia就一定好高尚既真係too simple too naive
:^(
一言筆發 2017-4-10 19:02:48
不過想讀 ge 真係要諗諗
唔係想做 prof 其實讀 phd 好悶

最慘係
Academic 呢行好黑暗
出紙都係睇老細
Double blind review 都好
一眼就知邊個出

最on 9係
好多時 conference 同 journal review
D 老細都係掉比 d 細ge 做
我以前一年都做10 份8 份
通常都係睇頭睇尾算

之後d 人出紙都係抄抄下。
Idea 改少少又掉出來


你係邊個國家?
行行都有佢地既規則
覺得做academia就一定好高尚既真係too simple too naive
:^(

你可以選擇做高尚
但唔好expert 其他人都會
:^(