LIHKG 計劃進修PhD/Research討論區 (4)
Adam_Smith 2017-3-13 21:39:40

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係我 聽日考試 遲D先解答 但講真我UG唔係Stat 冇聽過呢兩樣野 有冇多D background information
:^(

我本來都唔知有呢啲嘢(可能因為我未上design and anal of experiments啦)
:^(
:^(
係之前係個網度見到啲infographic有講,所以先查過少少呢啲資料,感覺係psyc人用多

個巴打啲terminology好似有少少nonstandard嘅... 簡單啲黎講就係要estimate (mu1-mu2)/sigma 係咩(assume normality啦應該係) 有幾個point estimate,一個叫d,一個叫g,一個叫大楷delta

個巴打用緊嘅係g,減咗兩個xbar再除pooled sd,不過出嚟個結果會bias所以佢會乘返嗰個數去correct

至於點解會有兩個唔同嘅ci我就唔知
:^(
:^(

我都無聽過
不過個巴打好似想從一個estimate搵另一個estimate
從一個estimate既ci搵另一個estimate既ci

無聽過 x3
p.s. 我有做ALE meta analysis

其實你喺第四個冇聽過
:^(
:^(

其實我係做psy meta analysis
:^(


但我都唔係好識呢類stat formula
我只知 SMD X 岩岩講果揪野就會= g, vice versa
但我唔明點解佢地既CI照樣咁做就唔得
:^(

Google搵到D咁既野 https://www.meta-analysis.com/downloads/Meta-analysis%20Effect%20sizes%20based%20on%20means.pdf
應該解決到你既問題

Stat既野真係學極都學唔熟,過幾年又有新既least square出黎應用

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Adam_Smith 2017-3-13 21:41:35

我本來都唔知有呢啲嘢(可能因為我未上design and anal of experiments啦)
:^(
:^(
係之前係個網度見到啲infographic有講,所以先查過少少呢啲資料,感覺係psyc人用多

個巴打啲terminology好似有少少nonstandard嘅... 簡單啲黎講就係要estimate (mu1-mu2)/sigma 係咩(assume normality啦應該係) 有幾個point estimate,一個叫d,一個叫g,一個叫大楷delta

個巴打用緊嘅係g,減咗兩個xbar再除pooled sd,不過出嚟個結果會bias所以佢會乘返嗰個數去correct

至於點解會有兩個唔同嘅ci我就唔知
:^(
:^(

我都無聽過
不過個巴打好似想從一個estimate搵另一個estimate
從一個estimate既ci搵另一個estimate既ci

無聽過 x3
p.s. 我有做ALE meta analysis

其實你喺第四個冇聽過
:^(
:^(

其實我係做psy meta analysis
:^(


但我都唔係好識呢類stat formula
我只知 SMD X 岩岩講果揪野就會= g, vice versa
但我唔明點解佢地既CI照樣咁做就唔得
:^(

Google搵到D咁既野 https://www.meta-analysis.com/downloads/Meta-analysis%20Effect%20sizes%20based%20on%20means.pdf
應該解決到你既問題

Stat既野真係學極都學唔,過幾年又有新既least square出黎應用
Michaelzaki 2017-3-13 21:42:25

:^(
:^(
:^(
係我 聽日考試 遲D先解答 但講真我UG唔係Stat 冇聽過呢兩樣野 有冇多D background information
:^(

我本來都唔知有呢啲嘢(可能因為我未上design and anal of experiments啦)
:^(
:^(
係之前係個網度見到啲infographic有講,所以先查過少少呢啲資料,感覺係psyc人用多

個巴打啲terminology好似有少少nonstandard嘅... 簡單啲黎講就係要estimate (mu1-mu2)/sigma 係咩(assume normality啦應該係) 有幾個point estimate,一個叫d,一個叫g,一個叫大楷delta

個巴打用緊嘅係g,減咗兩個xbar再除pooled sd,不過出嚟個結果會bias所以佢會乘返嗰個數去correct

至於點解會有兩個唔同嘅ci我就唔知
:^(
:^(

我都無聽過
不過個巴打好似想從一個estimate搵另一個estimate
從一個estimate既ci搵另一個estimate既ci

無聽過 x3
p.s. 我有做ALE meta analysis

其實你喺第四個冇聽過
:^(
:^(

其實我係做psy meta analysis
:^(


但我都唔係好識呢類stat formula
我只知 SMD X 岩岩講果揪野就會= g, vice versa
但我唔明點解佢地既CI照樣咁做就唔得
:^(

Google搵到D咁既野 https://www.meta-analysis.com/downloads/Meta-analysis%20Effect%20sizes%20based%20on%20means.pdf
應該解決到你既問題

你條formula係轉個mean
Ci係mean+唔知幾多*sd
咁你應該要轉埋sd先計到
(好似係)(假設你全部野normal distribution)
我沒有放棄 2017-3-13 21:43:15

我本來都唔知有呢啲嘢(可能因為我未上design and anal of experiments啦)
:^(
:^(
係之前係個網度見到啲infographic有講,所以先查過少少呢啲資料,感覺係psyc人用多

個巴打啲terminology好似有少少nonstandard嘅... 簡單啲黎講就係要estimate (mu1-mu2)/sigma 係咩(assume normality啦應該係) 有幾個point estimate,一個叫d,一個叫g,一個叫大楷delta

個巴打用緊嘅係g,減咗兩個xbar再除pooled sd,不過出嚟個結果會bias所以佢會乘返嗰個數去correct

至於點解會有兩個唔同嘅ci我就唔知
:^(
:^(

我都無聽過
不過個巴打好似想從一個estimate搵另一個estimate
從一個estimate既ci搵另一個estimate既ci

無聽過 x3
p.s. 我有做ALE meta analysis

其實你喺第四個冇聽過
:^(
:^(

其實我係做psy meta analysis
:^(


但我都唔係好識呢類stat formula
我只知 SMD X 岩岩講果揪野就會= g, vice versa
但我唔明點解佢地既CI照樣咁做就唔得
:^(

Google搵到D咁既野 https://www.meta-analysis.com/downloads/Meta-analysis%20Effect%20sizes%20based%20on%20means.pdf
應該解決到你既問題

Stat既野真係學極都學唔,過幾年又有新既least square出黎應用

尤其而家Big data 搞到stat會多左好多新既methdology
Michaelzaki 2017-3-13 21:49:09

無聽過 x3
p.s. 我有做ALE meta analysis

其實你喺第四個冇聽過
:^(
:^(

其實我係做psy meta analysis
:^(


但我都唔係好識呢類stat formula
我只知 SMD X 岩岩講果揪野就會= g, vice versa
但我唔明點解佢地既CI照樣咁做就唔得
:^(

Google搵到D咁既野 https://www.meta-analysis.com/downloads/Meta-analysis%20Effect%20sizes%20based%20on%20means.pdf
應該解決到你既問題

Stat既野真係學極都學唔,過幾年又有新既least square出黎應用

尤其而家Big data 搞到stat會多左好多新既methdology

溫書啦
我沒有放棄 2017-3-13 21:52:09

:^(
:^(
:^(
係我 聽日考試 遲D先解答 但講真我UG唔係Stat 冇聽過呢兩樣野 有冇多D background information
:^(

我本來都唔知有呢啲嘢(可能因為我未上design and anal of experiments啦)
:^(
:^(
係之前係個網度見到啲infographic有講,所以先查過少少呢啲資料,感覺係psyc人用多

個巴打啲terminology好似有少少nonstandard嘅... 簡單啲黎講就係要estimate (mu1-mu2)/sigma 係咩(assume normality啦應該係) 有幾個point estimate,一個叫d,一個叫g,一個叫大楷delta

個巴打用緊嘅係g,減咗兩個xbar再除pooled sd,不過出嚟個結果會bias所以佢會乘返嗰個數去correct

至於點解會有兩個唔同嘅ci我就唔知
:^(
:^(

我都無聽過
不過個巴打好似想從一個estimate搵另一個estimate
從一個estimate既ci搵另一個estimate既ci

無聽過 x3
p.s. 我有做ALE meta analysis

其實你喺第四個冇聽過
:^(
:^(

其實我係做psy meta analysis
:^(


但我都唔係好識呢類stat formula
我只知 SMD X 岩岩講果揪野就會= g, vice versa
但我唔明點解佢地既CI照樣咁做就唔得
:^(

Google搵到D咁既野 https://www.meta-analysis.com/downloads/Meta-analysis%20Effect%20sizes%20based%20on%20means.pdf
應該解決到你既問題

你條formula係轉個mean
Ci係mean+唔知幾多*sd
咁你應該要轉埋sd先計到
(好似係)(假設你全部野normal distribution)

Formula 4.24, 2.25 係 Variance同S.D.
:^(
我沒有放棄 2017-3-13 21:52:24

無聽過 x3
p.s. 我有做ALE meta analysis

其實你喺第四個冇聽過
:^(
:^(

其實我係做psy meta analysis
:^(


但我都唔係好識呢類stat formula
我只知 SMD X 岩岩講果揪野就會= g, vice versa
但我唔明點解佢地既CI照樣咁做就唔得
:^(

Google搵到D咁既野 https://www.meta-analysis.com/downloads/Meta-analysis%20Effect%20sizes%20based%20on%20means.pdf
應該解決到你既問題

Stat既野真係學極都學唔,過幾年又有新既least square出黎應用

尤其而家Big data 搞到stat會多左好多新既methdology

溫書啦

收到
:^(
:^(
:^(
忒修斯之船 2017-3-13 21:52:26

:^(
:^(
:^(
係我 聽日考試 遲D先解答 但講真我UG唔係Stat 冇聽過呢兩樣野 有冇多D background information
:^(

我本來都唔知有呢啲嘢(可能因為我未上design and anal of experiments啦)
:^(
:^(
係之前係個網度見到啲infographic有講,所以先查過少少呢啲資料,感覺係psyc人用多

個巴打啲terminology好似有少少nonstandard嘅... 簡單啲黎講就係要estimate (mu1-mu2)/sigma 係咩(assume normality啦應該係) 有幾個point estimate,一個叫d,一個叫g,一個叫大楷delta

個巴打用緊嘅係g,減咗兩個xbar再除pooled sd,不過出嚟個結果會bias所以佢會乘返嗰個數去correct

至於點解會有兩個唔同嘅ci我就唔知
:^(
:^(

我都無聽過
不過個巴打好似想從一個estimate搵另一個estimate
從一個estimate既ci搵另一個estimate既ci

無聽過 x3
p.s. 我有做ALE meta analysis

其實你喺第四個冇聽過
:^(
:^(

其實我係做psy meta analysis
:^(


但我都唔係好識呢類stat formula
我只知 SMD X 岩岩講果揪野就會= g, vice versa
但我唔明點解佢地既CI照樣咁做就唔得
:^(

Google搵到D咁既野 https://www.meta-analysis.com/downloads/Meta-analysis%20Effect%20sizes%20based%20on%20means.pdf
應該解決到你既問題

Stat既野真係學極都學唔熟,過幾年又有新既least square出黎應用

「學唔熟」都冇錯嘅,因為prof每年都可以諗條新題型出嚟玩你
:^(
Michaelzaki 2017-3-13 21:54:03

我都無聽過
不過個巴打好似想從一個estimate搵另一個estimate
從一個estimate既ci搵另一個estimate既ci

無聽過 x3
p.s. 我有做ALE meta analysis

其實你喺第四個冇聽過
:^(
:^(

其實我係做psy meta analysis
:^(


但我都唔係好識呢類stat formula
我只知 SMD X 岩岩講果揪野就會= g, vice versa
但我唔明點解佢地既CI照樣咁做就唔得
:^(

Google搵到D咁既野 https://www.meta-analysis.com/downloads/Meta-analysis%20Effect%20sizes%20based%20on%20means.pdf
應該解決到你既問題

你條formula係轉個mean
Ci係mean+唔知幾多*sd
咁你應該要轉埋sd先計到
(好似係)(假設你全部野normal distribution)

Formula 4.24, 2.25 係 Variance同S.D.
:^(

無睇你條link
:^(
Michaelzaki 2017-3-13 21:54:47

其實我係做psy meta analysis
:^(


但我都唔係好識呢類stat formula
我只知 SMD X 岩岩講果揪野就會= g, vice versa
但我唔明點解佢地既CI照樣咁做就唔得
:^(

Google搵到D咁既野 https://www.meta-analysis.com/downloads/Meta-analysis%20Effect%20sizes%20based%20on%20means.pdf
應該解決到你既問題

Stat既野真係學極都學唔,過幾年又有新既least square出黎應用

尤其而家Big data 搞到stat會多左好多新既methdology

溫書啦

收到
:^(
:^(
:^(

其實我都要快快手執好份paper
已經做到唔想做 想寫下一份
:^(
Adam_Smith 2017-3-13 21:56:02

我都無聽過
不過個巴打好似想從一個estimate搵另一個estimate
從一個estimate既ci搵另一個estimate既ci

無聽過 x3
p.s. 我有做ALE meta analysis

其實你喺第四個冇聽過
:^(
:^(

其實我係做psy meta analysis
:^(


但我都唔係好識呢類stat formula
我只知 SMD X 岩岩講果揪野就會= g, vice versa
但我唔明點解佢地既CI照樣咁做就唔得
:^(

Google搵到D咁既野 https://www.meta-analysis.com/downloads/Meta-analysis%20Effect%20sizes%20based%20on%20means.pdf
應該解決到你既問題

Stat既野真係學極都學唔熟,過幾年又有新既least square出黎應用

「學唔熟」都冇錯嘅,因為prof每年都可以諗條新題型出嚟玩你
:^(

:^(

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DrPhysics🤓 2017-3-13 21:57:08
過多幾年就乞食
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我下年乞
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DrPhysics🤓 2017-3-13 21:58:07
好似無pure science撚?

pure sci
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:^(
Pure sci envy 就有
:^(
:^(


http://specgram.com/CLIII.2/08.phlogiston.cartoon.zeta.html


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Pure Science 撚
Adam_Smith 2017-3-13 21:59:15
好似無pure science撚?

pure sci
:^(

:^(
Pure sci envy 就有
:^(
:^(


http://specgram.com/CLIII.2/08.phlogiston.cartoon.zeta.html


:^(
Pure Science 撚

DrPhysics兄
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一言筆發 2017-3-13 22:00:22

Google搵到D咁既野 https://www.meta-analysis.com/downloads/Meta-analysis%20Effect%20sizes%20based%20on%20means.pdf
應該解決到你既問題

Stat既野真係學極都學唔,過幾年又有新既least square出黎應用

尤其而家Big data 搞到stat會多左好多新既methdology

溫書啦

收到
:^(
:^(
:^(

其實我都要快快手執好份paper
已經做到唔想做 想寫下一份
:^(

same here, 已經埋尾
下個project d data 都7788
好快可以寫第二份
忒修斯之船 2017-3-13 22:03:10

:^(
:^(
:^(
係我 聽日考試 遲D先解答 但講真我UG唔係Stat 冇聽過呢兩樣野 有冇多D background information
:^(

我本來都唔知有呢啲嘢(可能因為我未上design and anal of experiments啦)
:^(
:^(
係之前係個網度見到啲infographic有講,所以先查過少少呢啲資料,感覺係psyc人用多

個巴打啲terminology好似有少少nonstandard嘅... 簡單啲黎講就係要estimate (mu1-mu2)/sigma 係咩(assume normality啦應該係) 有幾個point estimate,一個叫d,一個叫g,一個叫大楷delta

個巴打用緊嘅係g,減咗兩個xbar再除pooled sd,不過出嚟個結果會bias所以佢會乘返嗰個數去correct

至於點解會有兩個唔同嘅ci我就唔知
:^(
:^(

我都無聽過
不過個巴打好似想從一個estimate搵另一個estimate
從一個estimate既ci搵另一個estimate既ci

無聽過 x3
p.s. 我有做ALE meta analysis

其實你喺第四個冇聽過
:^(
:^(

其實我係做psy meta analysis
:^(


但我都唔係好識呢類stat formula
我只知 SMD X 岩岩講果揪野就會= g, vice versa
但我唔明點解佢地既CI照樣咁做就唔得
:^(

Google搵到D咁既野 https://www.meta-analysis.com/downloads/Meta-analysis%20Effect%20sizes%20based%20on%20means.pdf
應該解決到你既問題

你條formula係轉個mean
Ci係mean+唔知幾多*sd
咁你應該要轉埋sd先計到
(好似係)(假設你全部野normal distribution)

:^(
:^(
個sampling distribution應該係asymmetric
:^(
:^(
忒修斯之船 2017-3-13 22:05:20

:^(
:^(
:^(
係我 聽日考試 遲D先解答 但講真我UG唔係Stat 冇聽過呢兩樣野 有冇多D background information
:^(

我本來都唔知有呢啲嘢(可能因為我未上design and anal of experiments啦)
:^(
:^(
係之前係個網度見到啲infographic有講,所以先查過少少呢啲資料,感覺係psyc人用多

個巴打啲terminology好似有少少nonstandard嘅... 簡單啲黎講就係要estimate (mu1-mu2)/sigma 係咩(assume normality啦應該係) 有幾個point estimate,一個叫d,一個叫g,一個叫大楷delta

個巴打用緊嘅係g,減咗兩個xbar再除pooled sd,不過出嚟個結果會bias所以佢會乘返嗰個數去correct

至於點解會有兩個唔同嘅ci我就唔知
:^(
:^(

我都無聽過
不過個巴打好似想從一個estimate搵另一個estimate
從一個estimate既ci搵另一個estimate既ci

無聽過 x3
p.s. 我有做ALE meta analysis

其實你喺第四個冇聽過
:^(
:^(

其實我係做psy meta analysis
:^(


但我都唔係好識呢類stat formula
我只知 SMD X 岩岩講果揪野就會= g, vice versa
但我唔明點解佢地既CI照樣咁做就唔得
:^(

Google搵到D咁既野 https://www.meta-analysis.com/downloads/Meta-analysis%20Effect%20sizes%20based%20on%20means.pdf
應該解決到你既問題

你條formula係轉個mean
Ci係mean+唔知幾多*sd
咁你應該要轉埋sd先計到
(好似係)(假設你全部野normal distribution)

Formula 4.24, 2.25 係 Variance同S.D.
:^(

但個distribution呢
:^(
:^(
Michaelzaki 2017-3-13 22:09:56

我都無聽過
不過個巴打好似想從一個estimate搵另一個estimate
從一個estimate既ci搵另一個estimate既ci

無聽過 x3
p.s. 我有做ALE meta analysis

其實你喺第四個冇聽過
:^(
:^(

其實我係做psy meta analysis
:^(


但我都唔係好識呢類stat formula
我只知 SMD X 岩岩講果揪野就會= g, vice versa
但我唔明點解佢地既CI照樣咁做就唔得
:^(

Google搵到D咁既野 https://www.meta-analysis.com/downloads/Meta-analysis%20Effect%20sizes%20based%20on%20means.pdf
應該解決到你既問題

你條formula係轉個mean
Ci係mean+唔知幾多*sd
咁你應該要轉埋sd先計到
(好似係)(假設你全部野normal distribution)

:^(
:^(
個sampling distribution應該係asymmetric
:^(
:^(

咁咪轉晒個distribution既parameters再計
:^(
繼續沈醉(轉運) 2017-3-13 22:10:21

搞錯呀,個個都唔做運動既
:^(

Weekend會踢下波
:^(

運動?咩黎架
:^(

唔怪得你班友集中唔到啦,生活習慣差成咁
:^(

其實係
飲食唔健康唔定時
訓覺唔定時
完全唔做運動
又食煙

我有睡眠問題 有時訓唔著 成日醒
有時5 6點先訓
:^(

更加要regular運動,好訓好多
岩岩做完gym黎,平日會跑/做gym,weekend 1-2日行全日山,最新開始攀玩攀石。
運動好緊要,個人精神、少病痛,又有得見下出面d人,識下囡囡,人都無咁毒
:^(

囡囡已有 無得再識
:^(

:^(
:^(
:^(
:^(

我referee同我講讀得phd預左幾年無得溝女
:^(
Michaelzaki 2017-3-13 22:10:45

Stat既野真係學極都學唔,過幾年又有新既least square出黎應用

尤其而家Big data 搞到stat會多左好多新既methdology

溫書啦

收到
:^(
:^(
:^(

其實我都要快快手執好份paper
已經做到唔想做 想寫下一份
:^(

same here, 已經埋尾
下個project d data 都7788
好快可以寫第二份

Econ份份都要磨兩年
:^(
一言筆發 2017-3-13 22:34:32

尤其而家Big data 搞到stat會多左好多新既methdology

溫書啦

收到
:^(
:^(
:^(

其實我都要快快手執好份paper
已經做到唔想做 想寫下一份
:^(

same here, 已經埋尾
下個project d data 都7788
好快可以寫第二份

Econ份份都要磨兩年
:^(

轉做experiment 咪唔駛

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J痕叔叔 2017-3-13 22:38:15

搞錯呀,個個都唔做運動既
:^(

Weekend會踢下波
:^(

運動?咩黎架
:^(

唔怪得你班友集中唔到啦,生活習慣差成咁
:^(

其實係
飲食唔健康唔定時
訓覺唔定時
完全唔做運動
又食煙

我有睡眠問題 有時訓唔著 成日醒
有時5 6點先訓
:^(

更加要regular運動,好訓好多
岩岩做完gym黎,平日會跑/做gym,weekend 1-2日行全日山,最新開始攀玩攀石。
運動好緊要,個人精神、少病痛,又有得見下出面d人,識下囡囡,人都無咁毒
:^(

囡囡已有 無得再識
:^(

:^(
:^(
:^(
:^(

我referee同我講讀得phd預左幾年無得溝女
:^(


你referee係毒L ja?
:^(
Adam_Smith 2017-3-13 22:43:05

尤其而家Big data 搞到stat會多左好多新既methdology

溫書啦

收到
:^(
:^(
:^(

其實我都要快快手執好份paper
已經做到唔想做 想寫下一份
:^(

same here, 已經埋尾
下個project d data 都7788
好快可以寫第二份

Econ份份都要磨兩年
:^(

轉做experiment 咪唔駛

Review 3 round都差唔多時間
傳教士谷哥 2017-3-13 22:43:29

無聽過 x3
p.s. 我有做ALE meta analysis

其實你喺第四個冇聽過
:^(
:^(

其實我係做psy meta analysis
:^(


但我都唔係好識呢類stat formula
我只知 SMD X 岩岩講果揪野就會= g, vice versa
但我唔明點解佢地既CI照樣咁做就唔得
:^(

Google搵到D咁既野 https://www.meta-analysis.com/downloads/Meta-analysis%20Effect%20sizes%20based%20on%20means.pdf
應該解決到你既問題

你條formula係轉個mean
Ci係mean+唔知幾多*sd
咁你應該要轉埋sd先計到
(好似係)(假設你全部野normal distribution)

:^(
:^(
個sampling distribution應該係asymmetric
:^(
:^(

咁咪轉晒個distribution既parameters再計
:^(

thx巴打,呢個有睇過,不過因為我無mean variance
得SMD 同佢既 CI, g,但無g ge CI
有sample size

所以計唔到
:^(
仲以為SMD CI可以直接轉g ge CI, 所以其實係唔得?
一言筆發 2017-3-13 22:44:11

溫書啦

收到
:^(
:^(
:^(

其實我都要快快手執好份paper
已經做到唔想做 想寫下一份
:^(

same here, 已經埋尾
下個project d data 都7788
好快可以寫第二份

Econ份份都要磨兩年
:^(

轉做experiment 咪唔駛

Review 3 round都差唔多時間

睇journal 姐
有d 奇快